PRINCE2 is no PMP
There’s a post over at PM Student by Dr Paul Giammalvo comparing project management certifications. I have some more to say about this article later, but I just wanted to put out a quick post about how the PRINCE2 qualifications score in this.
Full disclosure: I hold a PRINCE2 Practitioner qualification.
The PRINCE2 Practitioner qualification scores a lowly 78. (Click through to the article for information on how the scores were assigned.) Compare that to PMI’s PMP qualification which scores 9624. That’s quite a difference. The main reason for the difference is the lack of any pre-qualification training, education or experience requirements to take the PRINCE2 exams.
At first sight, it would look like PRINCE2 Practitioner is an appalling qualification to get, practically worthless. But I think that would be completely wrong.
The problem is that the author is comparing apples with oranges. It’s fairly simple – these are quotes taken from the relevant webpages for each qualification:
“Globally recognized and demanded, the PMP® demonstrates that you have the experience, education and competency to successfully lead and direct projects.”
“The Practitioner examination assesses whether a candidate could apply PRINCE2 to running and managing a non-complex project within an environment supporting PRINCE2.”
Put simply, the PMP qualification aims to say “We certify that this person is a competent project manager”. The PRINCE2 Practitioner qualification aims to say “We certify that this project manager can apply PRINCE2”.
It’s an important difference. Certainly when I received PRINCE2 training, it was after I had worked on projects for a number of years. The trainers explicitly started the course by saying the exam does not test your knowledge or skill in project management, but your knowledge of how to apply PRINCE2 to your project management.
PRINCE2 is a methodology, and doesn’t aim to be everything a project manager could ever need to know – as the OGC PRINCE2 website says:
“PRINCE2 does not cover all aspects of project management. Areas such as leadership and people management skills, detailed coverage of project management tools and techniques are well covered by other existing and proven methods and are therefore excluded from PRINCE2.”
So of course there isn’t a pre-requisite amount of experience or training you must have before taking the PRINCE2 exams – because the PRINCE2 qualification isn’t certifying your competency in those areas, and it doesn’t claim to. It is specifically about whether you are able to apply PRINCE2 to a project.
(In general I’d say there is an assumption you will have a certain amount of project management experience, but certainly it isn’t mandated.)
That’s not to say that PRINCE2 Practitioner hasn’t come to be seen as a proxy for project management expertise – it has, particularly in the UK. But I think that’s mainly because there hasn’t been a ‘professional body’ in the UK attempting to impose a defined set of standards as to what a competent project manager is, whereas there has been a significant amount of work put into improving the PRINCE2 methodology, and popularising its use. Because of its near ubiquity, the market has come to see PRINCE2 as a measurement of project management competency, but the organisations behind it never claimed that for it.
In essence, in many places, being a competent and experienced project manager is correlated with having a PRINCE2 Practitioner qualification, but is not caused by it.
Does this mean we should all rush off and get PMP, and ignore PRINCE2? Well, no. PRINCE2 is, as I’ve said, a methodology. It provides a common set of standards, taxonomy, processes and so forth. It is, in a way, like the protocols used on computer networks – it allows interconnections, and for components, um, people, to be dropped into a new situation and still know the language. There is something akin to a network effect here – the advantages of speaking the same language as everyone else are enormous. It’s something you must be able to do to have any chance of succeeding.
What does that mean? Well, for ‘general’ project management (if there is such a thing), if you’re in a country where PRINCE2 isn’t particularly popular or dominant, especially the US, then yes, plan to gain the PMP qualification eventually. If PRINCE2 is popular in your country, look to gain the Practitioner qualification, but be aware your experience of projects is what will help you get a job, not the qualification.
As I said, I have more I want to talk about regarding this comparison article, and I’ll do that in a later post.
What and interesting post, for those involved in project management development. You are right about PRINCE2 being just the method part of project management and also the PMP requiring experience as well as knowledge. It is interesting that PRINCE2 has become he defacto standard for project management jobs market.
I must put in a plug the UK professional project management body. They have a range of certification standards from introductory level to a highly challenging competency based assessment of the ability to deliver complex projects.http://www.apm.org.uk/APMQualifications
Clearly the APM need to do more to get their message across.
I do wish we could rationalise all this but somehow I don’t think we will.
I look forward to you latter post.
First off I agree with the author that a PMP is really a waste of time and money…. Lets say you have 20 years PM experience and a degree in management…. What can they teach you that you don’t already know.
I have been a manager of a PMO for 10 years and a PM with over 20 years experience, I have hired PMP people and non PMP people with experience. Let me tell you that a piece of paper you pick up on a weekend cram class isn’t worth it and neither are the people who hand them out… Of the 300 people I have hired those with the PMP designation were the most incompetent and difficult to work with. First they think they are entitled and second they have no real world experience…. HR people WAKE up your throwing away a lot of good talent for a piece of worthless paper…..
Second people with PMP designations do not make more money….. Thats misleading in fact if you had one I would pay you less because you were not qualified in most cases to manage sanitation workers…
I would gladly put 5 of my best experienced Project Manager against any PMP and I will guarantee they will get any project done faster, safer and for less money than someone with a PMP… So a gain human resources managers wake up and realize that your getting ripped off and short changed by those who have PMP’s. Management is an art and a science as much as it is a people skilled profession…… They teach you those things on the job and not in a three day classroom or from some PMBOK…. I read that book twice and its pretty weird if you ask me…. as is the PMP dont waste your time get experience and work with companies who’s HR people know real talent!!!!
I find pmp a very rigid and inflexible subject. Thats why most pmp certified people are very rigid as well and difficult to work with. Only a handful of pmps are good and easy to work with
PMP is more like reading terms and Prince2 is like applying them. in other words, it is like You need words to right something and a though to arrange those words. just like Pen and Paper or Bread and Jam or Glass and water or laptop and Operating system. Anyways, it is my personal experience, I have seen and felt that Prince2 can make project management smoother and better, however PMP only gives index knowledge and no Project management methodology, No details on Organization and they don’t talk about Pre Project thing or Project mandate. If you have done only PMP, you will never be able to know how actual Project management happens as you will always feel, where to start with. However Prince2 gives details about it and make you confident to face the world and you will be able to monitor how well the work is going according to the project plan. Prince2 gives more of understanding the techniques in real word. You your self can judge with the examples, PMP only talk about construction field example, however in Prince2 there are several fields covered, Like Moscow in quality, 5w1h in Plan etc. Prince2 or PROMPT2 are very old, Tested and refined too.
I am currently jobless and new in UK. I was a seasoned banker in Africa and 43yrs old. I like PM but no experience and no knowledge on where and how to start so I can get good salary. Please help
Confused! I was searching whether to go for PMP or Prince2 and now I’m more confused than ever! Which one: PMP or Prince2?
Dear Madam/Sir
I am a PMP certified do you advice to go for the Prince2 foundation certificate? is it a sort of downgrade? appreciate your advice
Most people interested in pmp look into salary only, majority put the success of projects as second priority. if you look at any prince2 and pmp books, you can clearly identify that prince2 is more flexible and describes the project flow in a broader sense; thus giving you more confidence because you have an idea of things which might be unknown on a pmp knowledge. Plus, you can easily transform the prince2 in an agile environment as what i had experienced. In pmp, you need to take pmi-acp if you wish to apply agile in your environment.
Hi,
There is a great PRINCE2 Health Check and Maturity Model here : http://wwwtotalprogrammecontrol.com
it’s great to measure how well you are adopting PRINCE2
Nick
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Hi,
There is a great PRINCE2 Health Check and Maturity Model here : http://www.totalprogrammecontrol.com
it’s great to measure how well you are adopting PRINCE2
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This article also provides a good overview of the differences in PMP & PRINCE2 and helps you see which certification is the best for you: http://prince2.wiki/PRINCE2_vs_PMP
don’t be fooled on what they are saying. I had seen PMP managers failing projects. (In my place there are lots of PMPs).
I took refresher courses on PMP and some youtube videos on Prince and I can see that Prince2 is a very flexible framework (you can tailor it!). Having an Agile certification, it can be easily fitted into a Prince2 framework. That’s the reason why I took Prince2 course, and now I posses Practitioner and Foundation certificate.
Being Prince 2 Certified myself, I feel that as rightly mentioned in various posts on this forum, the basic difference between PMP and Prince 2 approach is that of Bookish knowledge vs the Practical wisdom.
PMP approach assumes that a project is in running in an ideal environment where all PMP conditions must be applicable, whereas Prince 2 is much more practical in approach where is says that we can tailor its methodologies to suit any type of Project be it a complex IT Project or as simple as arranging a Birthday Party.
I think an Ideal Project Manager needs to have a balanced approach which incorporates the methodologies of PMP with the flexible and practical Project management techniques of Prince 2.